It grates on my nerves too, and yet... descriptivist linguists argue that there is nothing grammatically wrong here with "less" instead of "fewer" and indeed a very long history in the language of this usage. You can read about it here: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1333
Have I posted this before on your blog? If so, I'm sorry! It's just because I find the subject of language pet peeves really interesting. :)
Fanny H: That is a really interesting link. There is definitely something less irritating about seeing "10 items or less" than there is about seeing "less lines". I certainly make my fair share of mistakes and my mother will be quick to tell you I use "like" too often (I DID grow up in California, after all) but there is something so grating about hearing and seeing "less" in front of a plural noun. I just can't stand it.
Thanks! That article was really interesting, especially the idea that "correct" grammar is the the way wealthy people spoke a generation or two ago, and is not some long standing tradition.
Ha! You say it wasn't you...hilarious that someone actually corrected the sign. Good for them :)
ReplyDeleteIt grates on my nerves too, and yet... descriptivist linguists argue that there is nothing grammatically wrong here with "less" instead of "fewer" and indeed a very long history in the language of this usage. You can read about it here: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1333
ReplyDeleteHave I posted this before on your blog? If so, I'm sorry! It's just because I find the subject of language pet peeves really interesting. :)
Fanny H: That is a really interesting link. There is definitely something less irritating about seeing "10 items or less" than there is about seeing "less lines". I certainly make my fair share of mistakes and my mother will be quick to tell you I use "like" too often (I DID grow up in California, after all) but there is something so grating about hearing and seeing "less" in front of a plural noun. I just can't stand it.
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ReplyDeleteGah! Torturous, to read that (original) sign. Glad someone fixed it!
ReplyDeleteI KNOW!!! Isn't that so annoying? Glad the grammar police set them straight!
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ReplyDeleteI read this review today and thought of this post of yours. Thought you might be intrigued!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.salon.com/books/recommended_books/2009/10/25/lexicographers_dilemma/index.html
Thanks! That article was really interesting, especially the idea that "correct" grammar is the the way wealthy people spoke a generation or two ago, and is not some long standing tradition.
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